I am hoping OGR forum experts can verify or correct these differences and offer opinions on whether diffs are worth $400-$500 more for Vision. Again, with a whistle that can make the people down the street wet the bed. Rail-fanning on The OGR Forum Welcome: Pictures YOU have taken! Copyright 1995-2023 eBay Inc. All Rights Reserved. Hello, Below is a list of engines I'm selling. This is the parlor trick of this engine. Lionel Vision Line # 2031530 Southern Pacific Daylight Steam Locomotive Relatively easy to diagnose and fix but still required opening the engine up, and is that not what you should expect/get on a VL model. Southern Pacific HO Model Railroad Locomotives. We are continually improving our website to comply with the accessibility guidelines in WCAG 2.1 Levels A and AA. Southern Pacific "Daylight" Steam Engine - Vision vs. Legacy? This alone is a HUGE difference. It. Thanks again everyone in OGR Forum so far for your supportive insights as well as very interesting videos and pictures! what are the differences and is the difference worth the extra cost? Dont buy a mint in box model since you run the risk of there being a problem and youll be SOL on warranty from Lionel (unless you find a store that has one). What about 'Dynachuff, IR Transmitter, and current speed and fuel and coal loading dialog in Legacy', are these also in Vision? Not sure why they were wired that way, or if this can be remedied without major surgery. I found a nice set of passenger cars from someone on this Forum. - Lionel did a really good job with the speaker enclosure on this 2016 run, and it has the best, deepest sound of any of my Legacy steamers. iI admit I have a little learning to fully understand some features, but these are bending me to Vision rather than the Legacy model. Lionel Vision Line Norfolk & Western Class A - Trains Free shipping for many products! 1 inside the engine, 2 inside the tender. Clinchfield Legacy 4-6-6-4 Challenger (used) . 35445 and no. Only the Visionline has force coupler sensing that dynamically changes the chuffing based on actual real tractive force. LIONEL (2031530) Vision Line SP/Southern Pacific #4449 GS-4 - YouTube Additional site navigation . 2020 Vision model # 2031520. The model has run flawlessly since it came back from NC. If they can any tooling is modified to be the most accurate model they can reasonably produce. Neither model gets the tender ladders correct. Please email me if you have any questions. 82749. Free shipping for many products! You must be signed in to continue. These streamlined cars are a perfect color match for the all the Lionel scale GS engines. From my experience and knowledge of the real SP 4449 (40+ years on the crew), the most accurate Lionel model is the Vision line. Get the best deal for lionel southern pacific from the largest online selection at eBay.ca. Union Pacific Vision Line Big Boy #4012. #1 3 speaker system. Find great deals on eBay for lionel vision line steam locomotives. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Lionel Southern Pacific Vision Line Stock Express Set 2022130 Gs-4 at the best online prices at eBay! Hope to see you out rail-fanning. Note: if you proceed, you will no longer be following, $12.00 per 12 Months (plus tax if applicable). lionel vision line products for sale | eBay 25416 - 2 car set (2 coaches); and no. For these 2 they used the GS-2/6 upper boiler mold which only has 1 dynamo instead of 3. 2016 Legacy model # 83193, (b.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsTxJ8RkdIg. Some say that Lionel engines made at that time were better built and more reliable. Looking to trade my Lionel 20-31530 Vision Line Southern Pacific Daylight 4-8-4 Steam Locomotive with Blue-Tooth; Legacy; and TMCC Operating Systems for a Lionel Legacy 6-11453 Erie Railroad 4-8-4 Berkshire Steam Locomotive with Legacy; Blue-Tooth; and TMCC operating Systems with Whistle Steam + Cash. Pacific VISION GS-2 #4414 (Lark) D DaveGG OGR Forum Member. Both are great, but the refinements in Vision add so much realism. The cylinder steam however is very, very cool but does seem problematic, from the stories I've heard. The feature set is great, especially the sound, but a couple of them seem a little overcooked for want of a better word. Bottom line: a VL Daylight won't be cheap, if you can find one. Ironically, the passenger cars I went with have "LINES" on them. Please share your views. " Suggestions Wanted on Modeling a Pile of Dirt or Chemicals, NEW ATLAS O TRAINMAN 40' PLUG DOOR BOX CARS - PRE-ORDER NOW AT WWW.PATSTRAINS.COM, WORKIN' ON THE RAILROAD "Harmon Part Two" 7/04/23, NEW MTH RAILKING SWITCH TOWERS - PRE-ORDER NOW AT WWW.PATSTRAINS.COM, Just wondering about MTH smoke units and changing resistors, Need part number for connectors to SPST switches, How to make a real drive-in theatre for your ("toy train") layout, Let's see your American Freedom Train videos and photos (real and model). The three speakers, sounds, bells and whistles of VisionLine features are simply mind blowing. For me, the most distinctive offering wasn't a single locomotive, but a single style of locomotive: The Southern Pacific's venerable GS (General Service or Golden State) line of 4-8-4 Northern steam engines. 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Mine also showed up with an issue, namely the inputs to the main smoke unit have been installed incorrectly with the stack controls fixed to the cylinder smoke and vice versa. Current slide {CURRENT_SLIDE} of {TOTAL_SLIDES}- Save on Locomotives, Current slide {CURRENT_SLIDE} of {TOTAL_SLIDES}- You may also like. They were cataloged in 2005. lionel southern pacific products for sale | eBay Cab window "glass". Lionel 1935080 O Southern Pacific Trackmobile for sale online | eBay Stay up to date on specials, closeouts, discounts, holiday sales, pre-orders, new releases, announcements, and more. UPDATE 6-30 Lionel's 50th anniversary hudson set with the lionel lines madison cars . I did train repair from 2005 to 2014 at a Lionel Service Station so I have seen my share of issues on new product. If anyone has seen both of the run, do the have equivalent pull power and running stability. Dimensions: Length: 18" Gauge: O Gauge year: 2020 rail line: Southern Pacific Minimum Radius: O54 Power: Electric Manuals Find the latest manuals in our support section. Minimum Curve: O-72. For additional information, see the Global Shipping Program, Lionel Vision Line Southern Pacific GS6 4460. 11448 'STEAMTOWN VERSION' Buy Add to compare list Add to wishlist. Don't confuse these with the later (2010) Lionel Shasta Daylight 18" aluminum passenger cars (no. Another new feature exists with the tender. Almost blinding. What about 'Dynachuff, IR Transmitter, and current speed and fuel and coal loading dialog in Legacy', are these also in Vision? Suggestions Wanted on Modeling a Pile of Dirt or Chemicals, NEW ATLAS O TRAINMAN 40' PLUG DOOR BOX CARS - PRE-ORDER NOW AT WWW.PATSTRAINS.COM, WORKIN' ON THE RAILROAD "Harmon Part Two" 7/04/23, NEW MTH RAILKING SWITCH TOWERS - PRE-ORDER NOW AT WWW.PATSTRAINS.COM, Just wondering about MTH smoke units and changing resistors, Need part number for connectors to SPST switches, How to make a real drive-in theatre for your ("toy train") layout, Let's see your American Freedom Train videos and photos (real and model). Another huge and worthwhile feature. Lionel Vision Line - Southern Pacific Daylight #4449 - GS-4 TrainWorld strives to make our website accessible. Not sure "Invest" is the correct term Get whichever you like and meets your financial comfort zone. This short video shows the first run of my GS-5 with all the smoke features operating after I had straightened out the smoke unit connections: Hancock52 - Thanks for the video and perspective. Not a big deal to many, probably. item 4 Lionel 6-11913 Southern Pacific Set Lionel 6-11913 Southern Pacific Set. This is my favorite YouTube video of the smoke effects on the VL 4449. In case any of you haven't seen this video on the Daylight, it's well worth watching, IMHO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYnk6xavVHw, Lionels VisionLine model. If you were to find one still at a dealer, that's likely the one that will pop up. Current slide {CURRENT_SLIDE} of {TOTAL_SLIDES}- Best Selling in Locomotives. $175.00 0 bids 2h 37m. Length: 20". | Free shipping on many items! Not responsible for typographical errors. I.ll have to look closely at how the 2020 Vision engine matches either the 2018 cars or 21 cars or even the 2020 heavyweight cars both in color and letter font. See the sellers listing for full details and description of any imperfections. As one person suggested if i find one i should have the for sale item fully demonstrated. May be true, although I like that the "Southern Pacific Lines" lettering on my GS-4 matches that on the matching Lionel 18" aluminum passenger cars I use. Thank you. - I went ahead and painted the cab interior and engine and tender ladders to match the prototype. Rail-fanning on The OGR Forum Welcome: Pictures YOU have taken! VISION, SD70ACe, ES44AC, NYC, lionel legacy, vision line, Lionel, Lionel Legacy and Visionline. I not local I could ask for a zoom demo. The set captures the energy of one of Espee's fast freights in the early 1950s. Lionel Vision Line - Southern Pacific GS-6 Steam Locomotive #4460 - YouTube Initially on the fence about these locomotives - but after seeing all the videos online as well as in-person at my LHS. Replies and comments they make will be collapsed/hidden by default. 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Daylight, Legacy or Vision, Lionel. Cabooses provide shelter for the crew at the end of a train, formerly required in switching and shunting, keeping a lookout for load shifting, damage to equipment and cargo, and overheating axles. For comparison I would be looking at these models as prime targets from Lionel: I would welcome all points of view! - A point for me in favor of the Vision model is the 5 selectable whistles/horns. Your VISION GS is equipped with dual sound systems. I just want to know what to expect or look out for, as either one of these engines bought now by me will likely be new or very rarely run like new. Tech Support for the OGR Forum (NOT FOR TRAINS). Rail-fanning on The OGR Forum Welcome: Pictures YOU have taken! All Rights Reserved. Southern Pacific VISION Stock Express Set The ultimate train experience! This item may be a floor model or store return that has been used. A side question - what is the Lionel model number of the extra tender / what tank? Lionel's 2020 Vol. You may..or may not.have a hard time getting parts for it. I don't know for sure if that's true, but all the engines I have from that time seem to be well made and very reliable. Tech Support for the OGR Forum (NOT FOR TRAINS), https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPjDdW-JYyk, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsTxJ8RkdIg. Feb 16, 2021 217 Dislike Share Save PriestBrosLines 540 subscribers This is one I have been waiting for for a while. rail line: Southern Pacific Minimum Radius: O54 Power: Electric Road Number: 4414 Engine: Steam Manuals Find the latest manuals in our support section. Lionel 6-11437 Vision Line Legacy Scale 4-8-8-4 Union Pacific Big Boy #4014 NIB + $60.50 shipping Lionel 6-38079 O Southern Pacific GS-2 4-8-4 Steam Locomotive & Tender W/TMCC LN $328.84 only a few left! You are right - invest is not really the right word. Lionel 6-82751 Pennsylvania Vision Line GG-1 with Legacy and Operating O-Gauge, O-Scale. The VL 4449, five 18" passenger cars, and one 21" passenger cars have become my favorite set to run and have not been removed from my layout since I first placed them on it. Some of this was posted in a thread started by a member . - I'd rather have the whistle steam than the dynamo effect. Some prices are for mail order only. Finally, you'll never receive email notifications about content they create or likes they designate for your content. On the flip side, the sounds of fuel and water loading, and CrewTalk dialog come from the tender. I am sorry for the delay in this video but on March the 18th I had undergone knee surgery and was not able to work on this video for the past few weeks.History: Southern Pacific GS-2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Pacific_class_GS-2#:~:text=The%20GS%2D2%20was%20a,were%20numbered%204410%20through%204415.\u0026text=The%20GS%2D2s%20were%20streamlined,speed%20passenger%20service%20in%201935.Product Number: 2031470Southern Pacific Lark: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lark_(train)#:~:text=The%20Lark%20was%20an%20overnight,discontinued%20on%20April%208%2C%201968.Train World: https://www.trainworld.com/Charles Ro: https://charlesro.com/ Norfolk Southern LEGACY Genset Switcher # 300. When I compared Lionels normal model # descriptions there were just a few differences, e.g. On bright Vision car lights, I read somewhere where a guy had all passenger cars except the diner toned down in car brightness to match the dimmer appearance of the diner, I think using an electric device like a diode (?not sure). All of the locomotives were delivered without the streamlined skirting and Daylight colors which had adorned the four previous classes. I have to admit - getting input from you all makes me more anxious - I have been getting back into model RR after too many years and now seeing all these features compared to what I used to know with basic conventional power and control with little or no sound is very eye opening and appealing. **This video is not made for children under the age of 12. Most advanced model electric train ever made!! 12, MTH 20-91802 O 35 Woodsided Caboose - Long Island Car No. Display. Includes the instructions, Legacy Memory Module and . It went back to Lionel for repair and came back to me in relatively short order.although it took two more attempts to get the correct cover for the switches that are located behind the smokestack. In the SP days, the whistle would have been closer to the cab. Something went wrong. We're sorry. The force coupler is very neat as well; you can really hear the exhaust intensity change when the loco digs into a grade. Do NOT expect this out of the box: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpB8sTGCxk0. 29115 - 4 car set (combo, 2 coaches, observation); no. Imho, the 2016 model with black boiler sides looks much more prototypical. When you block a person, they can no longer invite you to a private message or post to your profile wall. The Lionel Vision Line Norfolk & Western Class A has finally arrived, fresh from the Volume 1 2022 Lionel catalog. Gives a nice symmetry. In tow is a new Lionel Southern Pacific Daylight Auxiliary Water Tender (disappointed in size - it is definitely not 12\" in length as advertised (almost looks like it's not full O-scale)) whence towed behind the O Scale Vision GS-6. Note: if you proceed, you will no longer be following, $12.00 per 12 Months (plus tax if applicable). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPjDdW-JYyk. Finally, you'll never receive email notifications about content they create or likes they designate for your content. TO: leapinlarry: Your warranty comment begs me to ask for both the 2020 and 2016 engines, has their been a big need for warranty fixes when you buy and open up for first time a brand new Daylight engine from either of these two years? Battery Backup Module for LED Passenger Car Lighting, Lionel 20-31530 Vision Line Southern Pacific Daylight 4-8-4 Steam Locomotive. 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